Xbox 360 Converting.

JustADot May 28, 2012

  1. JustADot

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    Hello,

    I was wondering if I convert my current Xbox 360, to play downloaded games. Just for the offline achievement games.
    And I dont convert my new one, it stays as it is.

    And play all online games on that console will that get me still banned?
     
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    Your question is confusing. What are you converting your Xbox to?
     
  3. JustADot

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    I will build my current Xbox to a RGH, just to download games with offline achievement. ;)
    And I will use my new to buy games, with online achievements.

    Will this get you banned?
     
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    i have read mixed comments about this. Yes its possible to get banned because if you use your gametag on dashlaunch and stuff it will change the data on your account and get flagged for a banned. And No because if you log into your gamertag after you started the game up then your gamertag wont have any noticable changes to your account because the dashlaunch didnt change any data on your profile. Just a heads up about switching xbox is that once you log onto your rgh xbox, your profile will show up as corrupted after you put it back on your new xbox. you will need to use a specific rehasher or something to fix that problem everytime you switch between xbox.
     
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    best way is to make a account for dashlaunch/xexmenu one the games is loaded sign if ur account u want chevos for ;) also to avoid rehashing it when u swich xbox u can use a usb make sure its on same dash also
     
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    Or Flash Your Spare Console And Go Online With That, Just Keep Your Other One As A Spare Just Incase, No Point RGH'ing If It's Not Needed
     
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    I have 2 consoles and am doing what you are referring too ;) however i just have my profile on a usb pen and plug it into which console i use at time.

    Thanks to techno for this info:

    When looking in to the whole Xbox 360 Jtagging business I soon realised people could not agree if it was safe or not to use a profile that would sign in to Xbox Live on another console on a 360 that had been Jtag hacked. Some people would simply say to be safe just keep it in your live console, others said it was fine and any entries from homebrew would be removed when you signed in to live, then just for more confusion other people would say they got profile banned for having entries for emulators on their profile… which to be honest I would expect nothing less.

    I think its common sense, if you sign on to live with achievements such as “Welcome to the world of homebrew” from a Snes emulator on your profile Microsoft are going to know something is up…

    However what if you just want to play region locked games that will never be released where your region? and have the achievements you earn on your profile to compare to your buddy’s when you are next on Xbox Live?

    As they are many different ways to boot games on a Jtagged Xbox 360 I did some testing.

    Additional information:

    The Jtagged system used in the tests is a Jasper 512 running the 12611 dashboard (Built with FbBuild 0.11)

    Ensuring the tests are fair:

    To start off I created a new profile and played a game off the original DVD to get the entry on the profile. I then took a copy of this profile so I could compare it with the profile still on the memory card after loading the game in a different way, for example using xex loader.

    The game I did the testing with was Full Auto, for each of the test I loaded the game to the main menu then quit to the dashboard and signed the profile out. After that I dumped the profile to the PC so it could be compared in a hex editor to the profile that has only been used on the original MS dashboard with the original DVD in the Xbox 360.

    Test 1 - Installing the game:

    For this test I simply installed the game using the option in the MS dashboard, the installed game was not modified in any way after that.

    Results: The profile was not modified in any way when compared to the copy of the profile that has just loaded the game from a DVD.

    [​IMG]

    Test 2 – Quickboot Shortcut:

    For this test the files were extracted from the game disc and loaded from the hard drive with a shortcut created by Quickboot 2.1.

    Results: The profile was not modified in any way when compared to the copy of the profile that has just loaded the game from a DVD.

    [​IMG]

    Test 3 – User created games on demand container:

    For this test the files were extracted from the game disc, from these files an ISO was created, this ISO was used with ISO2GOD 1.3.0 to create a games on demand container to load the game from.

    Results: The profile was not modified in any way when compared to the copy of the profile that has just loaded the game from a DVD. You can also modify the title of the game in the container and it will not change the profile in any way.

    [​IMG]

    Test 4 – Games loaded with XEX Loader:

    For this test the files were extracted from the game disc, the game was then loaded from the homebrew application XEX loader

    Results: The profile was modified, although XEX loader doesn’t change you profile in any visible way it will still add data to your profile which can likely be detected by Microsoft.

    [​IMG]

    Test 5 – Games loaded with FreeStyle Dash 2.0a rev 1044:

    For this test the files were extracted from the game disc, the game was then loaded from FreeStyle Dash.

    Results: The profile was modified, although Freestyle Dash doesn’t change you profile in any visible way it will still add data to your profile which can likely be detected by Microsoft.

    [​IMG]

    Test 6 – Profile with XEXMenu 1.1 loaded:

    For this test i simply had a profile signed in, I then loaded XEXMenu 1.1 and signed the profile out.

    Results: When compared to a copy of the profile taken before loading XEXMenu 1.1 it can be seen the profile was modified, although XEXMenu 1.1 doesn’t change you profile in any visible way it will still add data to your profile which can likely be detected by Microsoft.

    [​IMG]

    Test 7 – Load a game with XEXMenu 1.1 then sign the profile in:

    For this test XEXMenu 1.1 was loaded up with no profile signed in, the game was then loaded and the profile was signed in as the games intro movie was playing.

    Results: The profile was not modified in any way, when compared to a copy of the profile taken that had just loaded the game from the DVD the profile was identical.

    [​IMG]

    Test 8 – Load a game from the original DVD on a Jtag and a non modded console:

    For this test the profile was signed in on the MS dashboard on the Jtag and the game was allowed to load to the main menu before the profile was signed out, the profile was then transfered over to a legit 360 that is not Jtag hacked or flashed. The profile was signed in on the MS dashboard and the game was allowed to load to the main menu.

    Results: The profile was not modified in any way

    [​IMG]

    Test 9 – Load an arcade game on a legit console then on a Jtag:

    For this test a new profile was created on a legit console running the 12611 dashboard, the arcade game Geometry Wars was loaded to the main menu, the profile was then signed out. This console has a licence for Geometry Wars as the game was purchased with a different profile.

    A copy of this profile was taken, the profile was then signed in on the Jtag running the 12611 dashboard. A version of Geometry Wars which has been modified to run as the full version was loaded to the main menu, the profile was then signed out.

    Results: The profile was not modified in any way

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    Conclusion:

    I have completed the above tests with a few different games, and found the same results with each test.
    Games played off the DVD, installed to the hard drive or loaded from a container / Freeboot shortcut will not add any additional information to the profile that is signed in. However if a homebrew application is used to load the game such as XEX Loader, XEXMenu or Freestyle Dash modifications will be made to the profile even if they are not visible.

    You can however sign the profile out and load the game using a homebrew application such as XEX Menu, then sign the profile in when the game has loaded up and no additional data will be added to the profile.

    It would appear any application loading on the Xbox 360 will add data to the profile that is signed in, even if this application does not have achievements.

    Applications such as Freestyle dash do not appear to modify profiles that are not signed in, only the profiles that are signed in will be modified and have data added to them.

    Modified arcade games that have been unlocked to work as the full version will not add any additional data to the profile signed in.

    Finally installing additional patches to the nand, such as any included with Dashlaunch will not add any data to your profile.

    [​IMG]

    Hopefully this testing might be useful to people who want to use a Jtagged Xbox 360 to play imports from other regions and keep the profile safe for Xbox Live use.
     
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    I would keep a offline and online account. Unless you really know what your doing than you can have one but becareful SilentLeecher is right.Sent from my SGH-T959V using Tapatalk 2
     
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    what i usally do is make a random account just for dashlaunch/xex menu and if i want to get offline chevos i would start the game on the the random account then log off when the game is on then log into my main i have been doing this for 3 years now no flags not one ban
     
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    And what about flashing a xbox? Is it the same will that also store data to the profile?

    I will be burning the games than, it still register data to the profile?
     
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    No, Flashed is never going to effect your account.
     
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    So if I would buy a flashed Xbox to play burned games on.
    And I use my profile on it, it will never put data on my profile wich microsoft can ban me for?
     
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    if its offline like you said you can use a flashed drive a flashed drive does not effect your profile in any way that counts for online

    the only way they can ban your profile if they catch you online playing a burnt game but most the time they will just ban your console
     
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    Oke thank you for the heads up.
    As i saw you're earlier post, when I load a game with a RGH Xbox and load the game with a dummy account and log out when it's loaded and sign in with my real account.

    It won't also store any date to my profile right?
     
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    yes thats what i do

    you load the game with the "dummy" account once the game is loaded you will log off then log in to your "main" account


    no sence your "loading" the game it will not show that you have used (xexmenu/dashlaunch) the only thing that would show up would be the games data that you have "loaded"
     
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    Oke, got alot of answers.

    As for a flashed xbox does it need to updated once in a while to play the newest games or when I buy a flashed one it never needs an update? Same for a RGH.
     
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    Yea. Anytime the dashboard is updated you need to update the firmware for both flashed and rgh Xbox. Some new games aren't playable on older dashboard.
     
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    Oke, figured it all out. :)

    Now ima start searching for a RGH.
     
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    I believe this site has a selling thread. I recommend checking that out and see if a trusted seller is selling any rgh xboxes.
     
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    What do you mean Convert? you mean being legit and illegal?
     

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